May 7, 2008 6:10 AM PDT

Pioneer offers up two new Blu-ray players

Pioneer's "budget" Blu-ray player will still set you back $600.

Pioneer's "budget" Blu-ray player will still set you back $600.


Pioneer announced two new Blu-ray players Wednesday morning, the BDP-51FD and step-up Elite BDP-05FD. Pioneer has so far taken a decidedly high-end approach to the Blu-ray market, with the company's initial players selling for upward of $1,000. Honestly, we're not sure what the appeal of these players are, but Pioneer tells us they can't fulfill the existing orders for the $1,000 BDP-95FD--proof, it would seem, that the enthusiast videophile market is alive and well. With that in mind, let's take a look at the key features of the upcoming Blu-ray players.

Key features of the Pioneer BDP-51FD:

  • Blu-ray Profile 1.1 (BonusView)
  • Can output Blu-ray discs in 1080p at 24 frames per second
  • Onboard Dolby TrueHD decoding, DTS-HD Master Audio onboard decoding available with future firmware upgrade
  • Can output Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio in bit stream format
  • 7.1 analog outputs
  • Wolfson digital audio converters
  • $600 list price, available this summer

Our first reaction to the specification sheet is that it's underwhelming given the price tag. Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio (after a firmware update) is nice--as is Profile 1.1 support--but the Sony PlayStation 3 already offers onboard decoding for both soundtrack formats and Profile 2.0 support for only $400. The step-up BDP-05FD doesn't offer much more, in terms of value:

The Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD will set you back $800.


Key step-up features of the Pioneer BDP-05FD:

  • Gold-plated connectors
  • Aluminum front panel
  • Touch-sensitive buttons
  • Two-year warranty
  • $800 list price, available this summer

The BDP-05FD has all the jacks you need, including 7.1 analog outputs.

The BDP-05FD has all the jacks you need, including 7.1 analog outputs.


If the BDP-51FD seems a little expensive for what it offers, then the BDP-05FD really seems expensive for its step-up features. The step-ups seem to be mostly cosmetic, with the player sharing essentially the same feature set as the cheaper BDP-51FD. For an Elite player like this, we'd at least like to have seen some enthusiast-friendly features such as SACD and DVD-Audio support, DivX compatibility, or even networking functionality like we saw on the BDP-HD1. We'll have to wait until summer to see these players, which will be going head-to-head with similarly priced high-end competition from Denon and Panasonic. In the meantime, we're sticking with the PS3.

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by MadLyb May 7, 2008 6:44 AM PDT
I think it is time to quit comparing the PS3 to standalone players in terms of price. Pioneer, or other Mfrs, do not have the option of selling their players as loss leaders and making it up in software and royalty revenue, they have to actually make a profit on the product itself.
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by chuck322 May 8, 2008 6:45 AM PDT
It is not Sony's fault that they have an addtional revenue strream. The cost of standalone blu-ray players is just to high for the average consumer. The PS3 is a great alternative; yes based on it's price. Sorry Pioneer but price plus features do matter.
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by ender21 May 8, 2008 7:53 AM PDT
But it *is* Sony's fault that the PS3 is 50x louder than every standalone BD player, and 20x hotter. If you're going to tout the PS3 as an alternative to standalones, then it's going to be compared *fairly* to them. PS3 has standalones beat on the Profile 2.0 and Hi-Res decoding side. But standalones have the PS3 beat on the ergonomics, heat and noise side. Sorry but if I'm going to invest in a Home Theater blu-ray player, it's not going to be a device that can't be used easily with a universal remote (because of the bluetooth remote), is a space heater while it's running, and is so loud that I'm saying "what did he say?" in the middle of quiet passages. It seems chuck322 has an issue with his PC or something given the duplicate posts.
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by will2348 May 8, 2008 8:04 AM PDT
I'm lucky that i have a PS3. However if i'm totally honest i think if your getting a good player even if the price is miles to high it is worth it. But chose carefully you don't wanna save up all that money and then buy the wrong one. I still think the PS3 is still better than all these players and is cheaper for the average consumer so why not buy one now.
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by unterhol May 11, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
I read this article to see if I could pat myself on the back for buying a PS3. I just did. It's sad that these players are hundreds more and can boast what? They are quieter and cooler? I keep my PS3 on top of my cabinet, not in it, and I've never heard it so both those features are nothing to me. However, picture from a Bluray discs looks awesome and I recommend buying any player to watch them. A conventionally shaped player that stacks (and matches) you existing gear may be worth the extra money alone. No-one looks at your equipment more than you, and if you think it looks cooler then it's worth bucks IMOP. So buy what you like and get blown away with the picture/sound.
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by AppleSuxLeo May 11, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
Who cares ? Boo-Hoo ray sales are in the toilet. DVD is "good enough" according to the MAJORITY.
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by bpob1977 May 12, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
The PS3 may in fact be a great Blu-ray player. But it is relatively difficult to integrate into a home theater system. Had Sony built the PS3 in a standard rectangular form factor with a quieter fan and included an infrared port to allow compatibility with a universal remote, I might be more interested. As it is, the $250 profile 1.0 Blu-ray player I'm using is more than satisfactory for the time being.
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