April 10, 2008 8:54 AM PDT

PS3 to get DTS-HD Master Audio decoding, new PlayStation store

(Credit: CNET)

Sony has announced the details on the next PS3 firmware update--version 2.30, coming mid-April--and the big news for home theater fans is that the PS3 is getting onboard DTS-HD High Resolution and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding for Blu-ray movies. Home theater fans have long lamented that the PS3 could not decode the new DTS soundtracks at their highest resolution, especially since movie studios like Fox have opted for DTS-HD Master Audio on many Blu-ray releases. Without getting too technical, DTS-HD Master Audio offers 7-channels of lossless audio at 96K sampling frequency and 24-bit depths--which means that the sound sent to your receiver should be identical to the studio master.

While some sticklers will point out that the PS3 can't output Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio in bitstream format, it's definitely a non-issue. Decoding the audio at the source is actually better than having the ability to bitstream high-resolution soundtracks, since it means even people with older HDMI-capable receivers can enjoy the high quality audio. Sure, your receiver won't light up the pretty DTS-HD Master Audio logo, but who cares--you still get the same great sound.

We have ranked the PS3 as the best Blu-ray player for quite some time, and this only sweetens the deal. Almost all of our major complaints have been addressed, except for the fact that it still doesn't work nicely with a universal remote. Some diehard home theater fans will cringe at the idea of using a game console as their main disc player, but they should get over their hang-up as the PS3 is currently the best Blu-ray has to offer and it also happens to be the cheapest. And you can play high-def games and stream music, movies and photos.

The new firmware will also include a much-needed overhaul to the PlayStation Store. The official PlayStation Blog posted a walkthrough of the new store, and we have to admit it looks pretty good. Check it below.


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by BrandeisGrad April 10, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
Beware your blanket assertions of technical truths -- your following analysis is wrong: "[d]ecoding the audio at the source is actually better than having the ability to bitstream high-resolution soundtracks, since it means even people with older HDMI-capable receivers can enjoy the high quality audio. ...you still get the same great sound."

Audiophiles, a significant portion of the customers who will care about this, likely purchase receivers or dedicated DACs with far higher quality (jitter-resistance, analog output stages, etc.) than the DAC integrated into the PS3. Is it more convenient for people who don't care about audio quality, as you say? Yes. But is it "the same great sound"? Almost certainly not.
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by boilerg April 10, 2008 9:42 AM PDT
Does this mean that the DTS Master Audio can be output via the optical output for receivers without HDMI?
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by keith.r.benedict April 10, 2008 10:00 AM PDT
That's really wonderful for the 15 people who have HDMI capable receivers. I wish they would concentrate on improving the playback of SD DVD's though. When I buy a Blu-ray player, one of the main selling points for me will be its performance on SD DVD's.

According to most AV experts, most of the current crop of Blu-ray players don't even match the performance of cheapy $100 DVD players you can get at Wal-mart.
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by mattumanu April 10, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
Word to the wise... I hate video that automatically starts playing, especially this type. It didn't start playing till I was near the bottom of the page.

Protip: don't **** your readers off.
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by iwarrior-poet April 10, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
Well, this IS one of the main upgrades I was hoping for before buying a PS3. I must admit it is now very tempting----since I was thinking of buying an Onkyo Receiver that can handle the newer audio formats----though I may wait on that for a little while since Onkyo seems to be about ready to role out newer models with more hdmi connections...
I do intend to use a PS3 as my blu-ray source (eventually). To those who point out the not-so-great dvd playback----you are probably right, so maybe just hold onto your current dvd-player for awhile longer.
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by dgrumich April 10, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
What's wrong with SD DVD playback on the PS3? I think it upscales nicely.

Audiophiles crack me up.
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by He_brewHammer April 10, 2008 3:00 PM PDT
This is what i have been waiting for. I just bought the Denon AVR 3808CI. I've been dying to hear this DTS HD format. So is it better for me to have it pass through to the receiver and decode? I just set it to bitstreeam, right?
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by sonymaster101 April 10, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
thats because audiophiles ridicule even the smallest of things... and they have always been nagging on the ps3 for lack of dts-hd, and now they shouldnt be able to complain, but are still atttacking the lack of bitstream, which really is nothing. the ps3 has excellent audio decoding capabilities.
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by chixhawk April 10, 2008 7:01 PM PDT
by chixhawk April 10, 2008 6:58 PM The standard is bitstream/coax. Preparing a firmware update for both HDMI and Bitstream would have taken up anymore time. All companies, not just Sony should do this. There are millions of high quality receivers out there that don't have HDMI mines is one of them (Denon AVR 5803) that could complement those new processing formats with no problem. Look at the percentage of people who own a hdmi equipped receiver vs those who don't and It woulld be a tremendous benefit for Sony to offer this upgrade through both HDMI/bitsream. This could add to the sales of the PS3 because the difference in the uncompressed sound is as noticable as 1080p is from 480p even if it is not through HDMI. As far as the playback of SD dvd in the PS3, it is extremely poor incomparison to SD dvd players. The quality of High def dvd is already proven against SD dvd. Sony did not need to downgrade the already excellent visuals of this current format in order to help push theirs along.
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by turboej25 April 10, 2008 7:43 PM PDT
I am confused. I have a PS3, how do I get the dts-HD out of it? Could someone lay it out simple; what needs to be pluged into what to get what?
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by aetherial April 10, 2008 9:58 PM PDT
"As far as the playback of SD dvd in the PS3, it is extremely poor incomparison to SD dvd players. "

Have you actually watched a DVD on the PS3 since they added upscaling? It's one of the best upconverting players on the market.
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by jonathan_a April 11, 2008 5:34 AM PDT
Well this is awesome news. Sure maybe it won't be the best quality of decoding, but it still SUPPORTS IT! I'm almost ready to bet the average person won't be able to tell the difference in quality anyways.

PS3 is really starting to look promising and worth buying. Now if they could just lower the price, because as much as I want to watch HD Blu-Ray movies... it still sucks as a gaming console! It has like NO GAMES!
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by bubblebathgirl April 11, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
The sound was already "great" IMO, this just makes it ... well, it makes those audiophiles/snobs STFU! :)
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by titolajko April 11, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
You need to have an HDMI receiver ($399 and up). Then you would connect hdmi ($15 on ebay) in your ps3 on one end and the other end goes into receiver input 1 or 2 or 3. Then you need another hdmi cable that goes into hdmi out on your receiver on one end and into hdmi in on your tv on the other end. Then you have to set up your receiver to accept the signal and when you watch blu-rays on your ps3 controller you must press the stop button, not play and change audio from dd 5.1 to uncompressed, true hd or dts-hd. good luck and you'll need about $450-$500 to enjoy it.
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by solblack April 11, 2008 12:26 PM PDT
I don't know what some people are talking about SD dvd plays fine on my PS3. I even had some bad SD dvd work where they did not play on other players. I was fortunate to get one of the PS3 when they first came out I don't know if it makes a difference.
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by sandrob57 April 11, 2008 5:33 PM PDT
That's nice that it plays movies and sound and all that...

...but when will the PLAYstation 3 get some games?
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by meatyb0y April 12, 2008 5:15 AM PDT
@BrandeisGrad & turboej25 -

BrandeisGrad - you have confused decoding with digital to analogue conversion. The PS3 will output a digital PCM signal that has been decoded from DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD. Your receiver will still handle the Digital-to-Analogue conversion using it's DAC's. The decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA to PCM is genuinely lossless, loosely analogous unzipping a zipped file and getting out exactly what you put in. As an "audiophile" (who's favorite music source is SACD and vinyl), I have no problem with that as there will be no loss of quality. It's an easy mistake to confuse decoding with digital to analogue conversion.

turboej25 - connect the PS3 HDMI to your HDMI capable receiver. Set the PS3 to output multi-channel PCM. BAM - you're done. Go watch Alvin and the Chipmunks in DTS-HD MA. Oh, wait....
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by VividVisualsandSound April 13, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
I get around the universal remote issue for my clients by installing a Blu-Wave infrared remote for the PS3. The only downfall is that it can not power on or off the PS3.

It works great for controlling the all DVD functions and it replicates most PS3 controller functions.

It works with a compact USB receiver and has a 25' range and works well with IR repeaters.

A great add-on for a mere $20.00!

Ken
Vivid Visuals and Sound
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by coreman2200 April 14, 2008 12:08 AM PDT
My limited knowledge in respect to what audiophiles seek in their ultimate aural experience withstanding, this is an amazing upgrade, which I believe applies more to the enthusiast than the average consumer. The quality degrade - if not fully negligible - are almost infinitesimally minute. You're Still getting an awesome experience.
For those who still say that the PS3 is bad with SD-DVDs, I cannot agree with this one, either. Not too long ago the lovely 'resume' functionality had been introduced for Blu-Ray and sddvd content. A bit before that, various methods of noise reduction had been implemented, complimenting the amazing (and far more previously intro'd) upscaling functionality of the console. Standard DVDs play Much better via the PS3 and said upscaler than many on the market today - this has been consistently stated in reviews and personally considered true. My movies play wonderfully through this console.
As for the games quip that I think I see too often to be ignored -- frankly, should be. The roster of A-qual games out for the PS3 shouldn't be ignored, and for those whom care too little to keep up, this is The year for PS3 software. Back log a bit and you will see games like Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, Burnout (which had been developed for PS3 and ported to X360 - so you're getting a quality game and not another crappy PS3-port), among Many others have come out, already. But GTAIV (surely not exclusive) is right around the corner, Gran Turismo: Prologue comes out this week (and it looks/plays fantastic), Metal Gear Solid IV, Home, Little Big Planet, Killzone II, Final Fantasy XIII, and a good bit more are further down the bend, all heavily anticipated this year. And FINALLY we're getting to a point where developers are much more comfortable with devving for the console... We're in the midst of some very interesting PS3 achievements. I understand that this article isn't particularly set forth for game and (our) flame wars, but I just think these are things worth mentioning to the enthusiast clinging on to reasons such as that one.. The 'no games' message is one I'm tired of reading and almost feel obligated to debunk lol.

I'm Reallllly not trying to start up anything - just providing useful information to those whom may be unaware -- we all know how easy it is to follow blindly negative commentary, just to avoid being disappointed with a purchase. I just want to assure those on the fence (for whatever reasons) that thus far I haven't been in the slightest.
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by daciple April 14, 2008 1:11 AM PDT
Dude i have an onkyo reciver and the ps3 i mos def recommend buying both...The bluray cant be beat and hell what other bluray player can access internet and play games dont wait go buy both!!!!!!! And when it comes to standard dvd the onkyo reciver i got came with a 6 disc upconverting dvd player n i never use it lol...I have the best upconverting system out its called a ps3......
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