January 23, 2008 10:01 AM PST

HD DVD's ship is sinking fast


When Warner Bros. announced it was becoming a Blu-ray exclusive studio, most observers of the format war agreed that it was a mortal wound for HD DVD. The only remaining question was, how long is HD DVD going to last? Well, according to the latest NPD data (as compiled by Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits), not very long. During the week of January 5 to 12--the first week the market had to respond to the Warner announcement--Blu-ray absolutely trounced HD DVD in hardware sales, grabbing 92.53 percent of the high-def disc-player market. That's pretty ugly for the HD DVD camp, but it only gets worse. The most damning aspect of these numbers is that they do not include the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on drive--only standalone players. We previously thought HD DVD's only road to victory was by selling tons of cheap standalone HD DVD players, so the fact that relatively expensive Blu-ray players are starting to sell makes it seem like this format war has been officially declared over--by the consumers.

Of course, Toshiba slashed prices on its HD DVD players just a few days after this data ends--and we're very interested to see what kind of impact that has on hardware sales--but it's going to be hard (if not impossible) to overcome Blu-ray's momentum. Blu-ray also continues to outsell HD DVD in software sales, largely because of the PS3 user base. We'll be weighing all these new developments in our next update to our Quick Guide to HD DVD vs. Blu-ray, which will go up early next week.

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$100 or less for a player and I'm in!
by sommer182 January 23, 2008 10:31 AM PST
Toshiba might as well get it over with and waive the white flag, but I doubt Microsoft will give in that easy. HD-DVD might well survive as a computer storage medium, but days are growing short for the home theater crowd. I'm not ashamed to admit it, I purchase an HD-A2 at Wal-Mart during the $99 sale. But the only movies I have purchase new for it have been dual format films. Unless Sony and Company can come out with a $99.99 player and movies that play on BOTH Blu-Ray AND standard DVD (for my laptop, portable DVD and in-car systems), then I'll continue to sit out the games and just buy all my movies in $10 standard DVD format. Good luck to both camps. The best thing about the whole war being over will be not having to read all the idiot posts about one format being better than the other!
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Blu-Ray Reviews
by BuzzillionsEmma January 23, 2008 10:50 AM PST
The Blu-Ray has been getting both positive and negative reviews, people who have purchased say that while the quality of picture is great and is easy to set up and use, the cons are that it's slow to power up and there's no memory. Here are reviews left by people who are verified to have purchased it: http://www.buzzillions.com/prd-260217-sony-blu-ray-disc-player-reviews/ One guy said "Great design gives it a sleek look. When turning it on, it takes longer than a minute for the tray to open up. I have heard this before so it may be common for these types of DVDs. With the HDMI connection, the picture is very sharp! I definitely noticed a difference in DVDs to HD Blue Rays. Disadvantage on all HDMI connection is that you don't get closed captions signal through it. If the DVD doesn't have subtitles, then you need to use a different connection and the quality reduces, big time. The manual section on hook-up is confusing a little on the variety of choices. HDMI is too simple and yet the manual shows to many wires with options that won't make sense to some users. You need to figure out the settings if you want PCM audio, mix-down, etc. You need to know which quality is better. First couple of days on using it, it locked up once watching a movie. I had to unplugged it from the back to restart it. It could be a dirty DVD but it hasn't happened again. My biggest peeve is when you turn off the DVD and want to continue watching where you left off next time, you at the beginning of the DVD again. Not so sure about improvement on audio quality because I can't imagine audio sounding better than regular DVDs."
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I Have A Long Memory
by Dashkatt January 23, 2008 4:32 PM PST
Many moons ago, this very thing happened concerning VCR's. The flap was whether VHS or Beta would survive. As usual, the public backed the wrong horse and Beta was put out to pasture. Regardless of the fact that the Beta version was far superior to the quality of the VHS, the public was duped into going with the VHS. One reason was a total ignorance of sales people in the retail stores who were being asked by customers "which one is best?" All the sales persons knew was the VHS recorded longer. I hope we're not looking at another mis-intelligence war over HD players. I may take the plunge for $99 bucks on an HD machine. But I damn sure won't pay $300 for a Blue Ray.
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Sony Schmony! I'm getting my HD-DVD tomorrow!
by TrackStar1682 January 23, 2008 11:52 PM PST
I really don't care if HD-DVD's sales have been a little down compared to Blu-Ray. The fact is that HD-DVD is a standard that has been finalized and that anything I buy now, or in the future should it arrive, will play on the same player I'll be getting in the morning. Blu-Ray is like a product that's still in development, and the only player guaranteed to actually work in the future is the PS3. Sure, my PC's Hi Def drive will support both formats, but it's not because I really want both, it's more of a safeguard in case the lousy Blu-Ray format wins. Don't get me wrong, Sony has a good idea with Blu-Ray, but it's horribly implemented. It might as well be called Blu-Beta.
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Driven by Industry Politics, Not Consumer!
by jpaul4 January 24, 2008 12:19 AM PST
Despite Hollywood's claim that they are endorsing BluRay over HD-DVD because of demand, which was already tilted by Sony's play in film and hardware, it is really Hollywood driving the market with their endorsements. It appears the debate on quality and pros/cons was tilted in HD-DVDs favor, but in the soon to be end, it was really Hollywood endorsements that decided the war's outcome. I wouldn't totally count out HD-DVD though; I suspect if Microsoft has its way, which they usually do, we will see HD-DVD stronger in PCs which will ultimately lead to dual drives similar to DVD+/- format.
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Conspiracy theories
by mwooge January 24, 2008 1:04 AM PST
Boy, all sorts of plaots to make Blu-Ray win? Here's one with some actual evidence: VHS didn't beat Beta because of Hollywood plots or anything like that. VHS won becasue it could record an entire movie. People wanted to set their timer-recording for an entire two hour movie and come home to watch it. With Beta, you'd have to get back in time to put in a new tape.
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Blu-Ray? HD-DVD?
by RRosal January 24, 2008 5:31 AM PST
Forget all this nonsense, my 8-track tapes with Skynard still KICK! ;-)
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Bad news before it even happens.
by scythie January 24, 2008 6:10 AM PST
Congratulate yourselves for posting obituaries when something isn't dead yet. I think the Blu-ray jump can be attributed more to the extensive amount of bad news for HD-DVD, declaring it dead long before any results pointed to such conclusions, rather than Warner's decision itself.
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both formats are losing....
by pedmart January 24, 2008 11:05 AM PST
i'm about to buy an hd-dvd just for the high def and the low price, great sound, and the best upconverter of regular dvds, at the end, i believe blu ray and hddvd will lose and a new format will come, probably digital download, now apple is into renting, the big consoles allow you to do the same, you get 1080 cable signal, soon, you won't need to buy big disc, and have the extra box. i think my purchase will be good for what i already have, and will wait for the new generation.
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Apple will win in the end
by cyde01 January 24, 2008 12:01 PM PST
I agree that Hollywood along with consumer electronics giants are dictating the format war rather than consumers. In the end, both formats will lose out big time because of all the mistakes they made in starting the format war in the first place. Standard def DVDs are still more popular than either, and soon HD movie downloads will put the nail in the coffin of both. It's only a matter of time before iTunes opens up its crippled and limited HD service or a new and better download service starts up. If HD downloads take off in the next 2-3 years, blu ray and HD-DVD will have missed their short window of opportunity to make profit, and Apple will have scored another coup. Companies that make products like the Apple TV will be raking in all the dough while Toshiba and Sony will be relegated to just making drives and burners for computers, and Apple will be that much closer to its goal of world domination. While I don't like the idea of Apple controlling not just music but also the movie industry, it'll be better for the consumer than blu ray or HD-DVD.
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