October 12, 2007 2:32 PM PDT

ATA Airlines detains passenger for using iPhone in 'airplane mode'

Apparently putting your iPhone in airplane mode is not the digital equivalent of returning your seatback to the upright position.

Don't try to watch movies on an iPhone if you're flying on ATA.

(Credit: ATA Airlines)

A flight attendant for ATA Airlines recently asked a flier watching a movie midflight on the way to Hawaii to shut off his iPhone, not for the perfectly reasonable reason that the man was watching the inane Jennifer-Love Hewitt vehicle I Know What You Did Last Summer, but because you're not allowed to use cell phones inflight. Casey, the iPhone user, told Consumerist that he tried several times to explain to the flight attendant that the iPhone was in "airplane mode," with all the radios disabled. But the flight attendants did not accept that explanation, and continued to insist that FAA regulations prohibit talking on cell phones when the cabin door is closed, despite the fact that Casey wasn't actually talking and the fact they were over the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

As happens with these things, people got huffy, tempers flared, and Casey eventually found himself talking to a few bemused policemen in Hawaii. He reported that the flight attendant changed his story several times, first telling police that the airplane wasn't shielded for any type of electronic device (although apparently everybody else's MP3 players were fine), then telling police the plane wasn't shielded for "ONLY (emphasis his) phones in airplane mode." Casey was allowed to go, and apparently was not sentenced to watch Heartbreakers in its entirety to get a better sense of what might have provoked the flight attendant.

I'm sure there's more to this story. I'm playing a game of phone tag with ATA, and decided to post and update later if I hear back from them. It also brings up a few interesting points.

First of all, "airplane mode" doesn't appear to be a universally defined state of being by the FCC, FAA, the airlines or the mobile phone industry, and perhaps it should. Apple's Web page on the iPhone's airplane mode clearly states, "If you turn on airplane mode, the wireless features of iPhone are disabled, and if allowed by the aircraft operator and applicable laws and regulations (emphasis mine), you can continue to use the non-wireless features after takeoff.

Some airlines explicitly state that you can use a mobile phone in airplane mode over 10,000 feet. Others don't get into it, and just say you can't use mobile phones while in the air. So it might very well be ATA's policy to prohibit the use of mobile phones under any circumstances, just like it's their policy to shoehorn passengers into seats best suited for those under 5 feet tall.

I also wonder if smartphones will eventually force the FAA to make a decision about the use of mobile phones during flights. There may be legitimate reasons to disable wireless networking or calling on airplanes, whether those are technical concerns both in the air and on the ground, or whether it's merely a nod to flyers who don't want to hear one end of a five-hour conversation. But there's an awful lot of things you can do with mobile computers that don't involve wireless networking, from listening to music or watching movies to playing games or even composing documents with an expandable keyboard. As long as people are allowed to use their iPods, laptops, and portable DVD players above 10,000 feet, it seems silly to prohibit the use of a properly silenced smartphone just because it also happens to be a phone.

But we're talking about airlines and the government, so silly things happen all the time. Some consistency on mobile phone usage would be nice from the airline industry, but I'd prefer they figure out an whole new operating model that actually works before taking on matters such as these.

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No Rights As Passengers...
by treet007 October 13, 2007 1:41 PM PDT
I remembered in a domestic airline flight that I was told to remove my headphones before take off, even though it was not plugged into anything. I was using it for noise cancellation. The headphones were not the expensive Bose or the like noise cancellation types, but a regular home-type headphones which covers the entire ears. I explained once politely, and the flight attendant insisted. I made no further fuss and simply complied. No incident occurred.

Just remember, when you are riding on an airline seat, the airline is the dictator, not you. Like it or not, that is the way it is. You can complain all you want after the flight, but during flight, the airline employees and pilots have full law enforcement/detainment capabilities by stating that you are a "potential" threat to the flight. No excuses.

Just thank Homeland Security and TSA for such paranoid, narrow-minded viewpoints concerning security in the airline industry...
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No Rights As Passengers...
by treet007 October 13, 2007 1:41 PM PDT
I remembered in a domestic airline flight that I was told to remove my headphones before take off, even though it was not plugged into anything. I was using it for noise cancellation. The headphones were not the expensive Bose or the like noise cancellation types, but a regular home-type headphones which covers the entire ears. I explained once politely, and the flight attendant insisted. I made no further fuss and simply complied. No incident occurred.

Just remember, when you are riding on an airline seat, the airline is the dictator, not you. Like it or not, that is the way it is. You can complain all you want after the flight, but during flight, the airline employees and pilots have full law enforcement/detainment capabilities by stating that you are a "potential" threat to the flight. No excuses.

Just thank Homeland Security and TSA for such paranoid, narrow-minded viewpoints concerning security in the airline industry...
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Useing your cell phone, will the plane will crash?
by dnstrom October 15, 2007 3:00 PM PDT
Let?s start with the Blackberry/cell phone myth. Every airline flight attendant makes more or less the same announcement, insisting you turn off your cell phones and Blackberries, blueberries, strawberries and other personal electronic devices because ?they interfere with the plane?s navigational systems.? If you ask if it?s a rule, the flight attendant will tell you it?s FAA policy. True or false?

False on both counts. First, the FAA has tested personal electronic devices, from Walkmen to Gameboys to laptop computers. Their scientists?for more than 25 years now?have bumped up the RF interference these devices give off, up to 100 times their normal levels, at distances of less than three feet from sensitive cockpit avionics. And guess what? Nothing happened. Nothing has ever happened. So did the FAA make a rule? Or a policy? Not exactly. Instead, under the current federal air regulations, the FAA simply states that since it was unable to prove any connection or link between operating these devices and airplane system interference. But it hasn?t made a rule and is leaving it up to each individual airline to set policy. So, if you insist on ignoring the flight attendant and using your Blackberry, you may be in violation of an airline?s policy (and subject to arrest for interfering with a flight crew), but no, the plane won?t crash because you were sending e-mails.

http://www.forbestraveler.com/luxury/travel-myths-story.html
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Useing your cell phone, will the plane will crash?
by dnstrom October 15, 2007 3:00 PM PDT
Let?s start with the Blackberry/cell phone myth. Every airline flight attendant makes more or less the same announcement, insisting you turn off your cell phones and Blackberries, blueberries, strawberries and other personal electronic devices because ?they interfere with the plane?s navigational systems.? If you ask if it?s a rule, the flight attendant will tell you it?s FAA policy. True or false?

False on both counts. First, the FAA has tested personal electronic devices, from Walkmen to Gameboys to laptop computers. Their scientists?for more than 25 years now?have bumped up the RF interference these devices give off, up to 100 times their normal levels, at distances of less than three feet from sensitive cockpit avionics. And guess what? Nothing happened. Nothing has ever happened. So did the FAA make a rule? Or a policy? Not exactly. Instead, under the current federal air regulations, the FAA simply states that since it was unable to prove any connection or link between operating these devices and airplane system interference. But it hasn?t made a rule and is leaving it up to each individual airline to set policy. So, if you insist on ignoring the flight attendant and using your Blackberry, you may be in violation of an airline?s policy (and subject to arrest for interfering with a flight crew), but no, the plane won?t crash because you were sending e-mails.

http://www.forbestraveler.com/luxury/travel-myths-story.html
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